Got an email this morning and it is also posted on the official ABC website that Mr. Flak has withdrawn his proposal to buy the club owned weeks. It is great news for ABC owners. The weeks are now offered for sale to the members for the same price as was offered to Mr. Flak. We have to thank the core members of the www.abcmembers.net group for prevailing in this in the best interests of all ABC members.

kathy, that is great news!

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The only thing we have to vote the "core" group for is screwing up a good sale and trying to get US the members to pay for their legal fees that they incurred when representing ALL????? of the Aruba Beach Club members. They are trying to downplay all of the hard work done by our elected board of directors. They also have to remember that they do NOT in any way represent all of us!

Doodles--You sound a lot like a board member to me. Before you post, you need to get your facts straight.

- That the board failed to reveal all the illegal activities Joe Flak was involved in particularly that he was disbarred from practicing law in Mass.;
- That the Court forced the board to sell to owners at .50 on the dollar;
- That owners have bought 160 club owned weeks so far;
- That transfer and control of our resales office was to go to Flak rent free;

It's much better to have the club owned weeks purchased by the owners than sold to Flak, with Flak having voting rights and potentially the ability to take over our club, control of our resales office and first right of refusal for any newly club owned weeks.

Ask yourself this question, what has the board done for you lately? You can't compare the renovation with the sale of the weeks.

Oh, and by the way, why does your profile say you own at CDM when you say you're an owner of ABC?

Kathy

Kathy, my facts are very straight - and no, unlike some of your "core" group, I have no intentions of trying to get myself on the board of directors, nor am I currently on it or affiliated with anyone on it. As far as me being an owner at CDM, I own at ABC as well, as I'm sure you probably know since your "core" group that went to court "representing ALL the members of the Beach Club??????" got to get all of my personal information - oh, by the way, unlike you guys who can't even put any contact information on the website that you put together OR on any correspondence that comes to my home - only PO boxes to respond to - that's a little cowardly, wouldn't you think? If you have the right to my information, I should certainly know who it is going to. As far as the board, this club has never been better. The grounds are beautiful, the maintenance is close to impeccable. I commend the board on all of the work they have done throughout the last few years to improve our beach club and make it a nicer place. However, as of right now, your group is making mine and probably a lot of other owner's vacations miserable by trashing the board every chance you get. Maybe if you took the time to at least commend the board on the good things they have done, I might be more willing to listen to opposition to them. But, the burning question on my mind is why you people seem to think that the board of directors is selling out the members. What benefit would they get from doing that -- they are owners too!

The website indeed has names and emails of contact information... it's under "Group Leaders." It isn't cloak and dagger as you're making it appear.

All you need do is go to the website, register, and you're free to ask any question you'd like.

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Doodles—
I have no intention of being on the board. If you knew the conditions of running and being elected for the board, you would know only the board can appoint the nominees so in effect they control who is on the board. One more thing we need to change in the by-laws. According to our board, I’m just another “duped” dissident. There is contact information on the website. It lists the names and the person’s email addresses, etc. The same as if you wanted to contact the board on the official website. It has their names and email addresses. When we want to contact the board, there’s nothing more than an email address on the website.
It’s too bad that you think this group is making your vacation miserable because they stopped the bulk sale. It is for the best interests of the members of ABC whether you realize it now or not. Like I said before, if you knew all the facts, you would realize it (I hope). Because of the owners’ sale by Court order, we have generated almost the $700,000 we would have realized with the bulk sale. It is a win, win situation. Don’t you think it’s odd that your board didn’t offer you the same price as Flak until it was ordered to do so? Don’t you think you deserve to purchase extra weeks at the same price as Flak? After all, you are an owner, right? You fail to realize that this man could have very well taken over your club. With 200 weeks’ worth of proxy votes, he would have been able to control our club…your club. Think about how miserable your vacation would have been had that happened. You would have been at the mercy of this man.
The board has done a great job with the renovation. No one is questioning that outcome. It has absolutely nothing to do with this bulk sale as I said before.
Your question is the same question that we all have…what is in it for the board to approve this sale, try to get it approved before the owners knew what was going on. They didn’t check into Flak’s background (in the states). Instead of admitting their mistake and being glad that some diligent owners did check him out, they are trying to discredit the core group. What is the board so afraid of? For a voluntary position, why is this board trying so hard to hang on? Some of the board members have been on the board for 30 years. Do you know of any other board position that you can remain on for 30 years? I personally don’t have any confidence in this board.
This discussion is a mute point now anyway because the sale HAS BEEN STOPPED. All donations to the concerned members group are voluntary. You will benefit, as all owners, whether you agree with the core group or not. They’re not going away. I can tell you that attendance at the meetings before the regular members’ meetings on Tues. are well attended. Many people are signing up to the website daily. We want a website that is open, where members can communicate freely with each other (like CDM as you know) without the secrecy this board has created.

you guys sound just like costa linda did this time last year. i mean totally completely the same. i could copy and paste the battles and interchange the names.

how did it turn out for us? the jury is still out. i see possibilities even though there are things i totally disagree with.

i will tell you that the answer is simple. the group with the money to control the legal side of things will win even if they are the wrong side. in timeshares as in many things, money wins over decency.

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Sherry--

I hope it doesn't turn out to be like Costa Linda. I heard the legal fees are $250,00+. We want to change the by-laws and in turn, change how things are done. Hopefully, it will be for the better. Isn't that what we all strive for?

I arrive at ABC after the annual meeting, by just a few days.. I am waiting to hear what happens.

In the meantime, congratulations to those owners who wanted to and bought the weeks up. Lets hope they all can pay their maintenance fees when they are due or we will be in a similar situation in just a year or two.

Im not taking sides, Im just stating the facts.

K

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Kathy, yes it is a moot point now - but what really bothers me more than anything else is what you all accuse the board of doing (trying to get a sale through without the members knowing about it), you are doing yourselves by saying that you represent "all of the members" when indeed you do not. You (or whomever took it upon themselves to go to court) falsely represented the members of the beach club, and that is totally deceiptful. What's done is done, but this insane bickering and accusation throwing needs to stop!

Doodles--I don't believe anyone in the core group falsely misrepresentated anything. You're starting to sound exactly like the board with their propaganda. You can believe what you want, but the Court in Aruba ruled in favor of the group and that's all that matters. You just "don't get it".

Well Kathy, this is my last post as I am not going to be in a pissing contest with you over this - too much frustration and effort to worry about it! But, by stating that YOU or (whomever did it) was representing me as a member to the Aruba courts is totally deceptive. The difference being I elected the board and I chose to have these people represent me. Your core group on the other hand took it upon themselves to represent me without my even knowing about it and that is what upsets me more. Sorry I don't "get it" because I don't agree with you - that is very narrow minded thinking to say the least -

But enough said, I am done!

Doodles--I'm glad you posted your last post. You sound like a very angry person.

do you both know how much like the owners at costa linda you sound? take it from me, it isn't worth being angry over a timeshare. as to the behavior of both of you, i respect you both but on this board we owe each other respect. that means we don't insult each other.

you both may be at opposite ends but chances are neither of you is entirely right nor entirely wrong so maybe you need to sit down and talk instead of having a pissing match. you may find you have more in common than you think. you both love aruba, you both love the timeshare. that's more than many couples have in common when they marry.

relax and let others battle.

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