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Old Monday, June 25th, 2007, 10:12 PM
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Can someone tell me if there is an ongoing problem with crime in Aruba.
I've heard there are gangs running around, and that a police cruiser was
torched. Also there is supposed to be some harrassment of American's. I
was there 2 yrs. ago and never heard none of this going on. Also a lot of
drugs moving in from South America. Is the Arubian government trying to
keep this quiet so it won't affect the tourist industry?
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Old Tuesday, June 26th, 2007, 12:11 AM
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ORANJESTAD A big fight between several gangs of youths in the vicinity of the Weststraat and Royal Plaza got completely out of hand last Saturday morning. A police car was hijacked and was found again totally burnt down in the vicinity of Sta. Cruz. The police from Oranjestad received assistance from their colleagues from San Nicolas.

The problems started when the police handcuffed and conveyed a suspect. After one the gang-members was hit by a flying bottle, about 100 started to fight with each other near Royal Plaza . The tension mounted when the police fired a warning shot. According to witnesses, the group yelled at the police that they have guns too and that they are not afraid.

When two police officers wanted to cuff a person, somebody in the public called that other troublemakers have hijacked a police car. Several members of the gangs were arrested. The police had to use the baton to calm down the troublemakers some. The owners of the entertainment places Carlos n Charlies and Bahia were ordered to close the doors. There was also commotion at the Emergency Room of the hospital. The injured young persons that were taken there for treatment, wanted to have a scrap with everything and everybody.
To me this was an isolated incident. Mix young people with lots of alcohol
and tempers will and can be short. I don't think Aruba is trying to hide
anything. Aruba isn't perfect but it may be as close as you can get right
now. Tourism is up 15%, I'm sure they are feeling some growing pains in
civil service areas, not everyone is cut out to be a cop and on top of
that, you don't become a cop over nite.

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Old Tuesday, June 26th, 2007, 06:18 AM
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miller, you are right. it's growing pains in civil service areas because as everywhere, with population expansion there is also a shortage of police. it's also a learning curve. as the population learns to copy other countries and the young start to get out of hand, the justice system must change what it does to stop it. the gang problem seems to be an isolated incident.

aruba didn't keep it quiet. it is in their local aruban papers as well as amigoe.com. the papers we read there are really not news, they are tourist information. it's very much like baltimore's 'city paper' that is geared toward tourists and local entertainment. no cover up involved.

i am not making light of the problem though. we have to realize that nowhere is 100% safe. always watch your back even in aruba. the reason these items shock us so much is there is not that much crime there. but that doesn't mean we have to be stupid and forget that aruba may be our paradise but it is filled with humans and we do have flaws.

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To me this was an isolated incident. Mix young people with lots of alcohol
and tempers will and can be short. I don't think Aruba is trying to hide
anything. Aruba isn't perfect but it may be as close as you can get right
now. Tourism is up 15%, I'm sure they are feeling some growing pains in
civil service areas, not everyone is cut out to be a cop and on top of
that, you don't become a cop over nite.

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Sandra

Great explanation. Thank you. With the Aruban Govt indicating it is tightening up on policing and crime, this is timely and appreciated

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Old Monday, February 1st, 2010, 11:47 AM
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thanks to sandra for the great explanation and liz, that was a great addition to it.

we really do appreciate this info.
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Old Monday, February 1st, 2010, 12:51 PM
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Sandra, that was outstanding !
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Old Tuesday, June 26th, 2007, 06:40 AM
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Crime is on the rise in Aruba. This riot downtown signals a new problem that may be evolving there....gangs and gang wars. Will the police be able to handle this?? We'll see. However, Aruba is still your SAFEST bet in the Caribbean. It is a "must visit" for everyone.
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Old Tuesday, June 26th, 2007, 07:56 AM
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Compared to Jamaica who records over a 1,000 murders a year, (surpassing even Detroit, which I am 20 miles from) I will take Aruba ANYDAY !!!! Petty crime is in Aruba, yes some dumb kids acted like idiots a few weeks ago....but for me it is the safest place in the Caribbean, hell it's safer than my own city.....
I lived in Aruba from 93-2000 and I felt safer on the island than in the USA where I have been robbed at gunpoint, 2 cars stolen and one home break in.........so I wouldn't worry myself over a teenage melee...go to Aruba and have a great time !
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Old Tuesday, June 26th, 2007, 08:12 AM
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I am in 100% agreement with the opinions I am reading on this thread. I really don't believe that Aruba has all of a sudden been taken over by organized gangs. I just got back a couple of weeks ago and during my most recent stay on the island, I did not experience or see anything that made me even slightly uneasy. And it is also obvious to me that the situation is a high priorty on the island. No one is going to claim that this incident was "covered up."

Utopia does not exist. The world is changing and so is Aruba but, for me, Aruba is still a near ideal society.
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Old Tuesday, June 26th, 2007, 08:41 AM
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We are confident that the authorities in Aruba are capable of handling the sudden upsurge in crime. The key to remaining a number one tourist attraction is to make it pleasant for tourists to continue to come to the island. The government is well aware of this. In all our years of going to Aruba, we have never once encountered a 'sticky situation'. We don't expect this to change because of isolated incidences that can occur just about anywhere on this planet.
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Old Tuesday, June 26th, 2007, 04:50 PM
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I felt very uneasy during my last trip to the island in March. My rental car was surrounded twice as I drove by the RIU resort during a labor change...both times workers jumped in front of my car while other workers tried surrounding it in hopes I guess that they could stop the car...little did they know that I would have hit them if they didn't get out of the way.

Also, another PLBR member was mugged on the sidewalk while walking back from the Westin and was badly beaten and robbed by three men who disappeared into the RIU construction fenced area.....also, very close friends were robbed in their rental home while they slept and their jewerly, camera, some cash, binoculars, etc along with their wallets were stolen.

We were also "followed" twice early in the evening walking back up along the front sidewalk from Salt n Peppers to Playa Linda.....

So, I was A LOT more aware this trip and had creepy feelings in the evening everytime we went out. Will it stop me from returning? Not in 2008 it won't, but down the road it might. I'm from NY and I'm quite used to feeling creepy, but I don't need to spend this kind of money in a place where my concerns were laughed at to feel creepy. I saw no visability teams on Palm Beach the whole three weeks I was there and no police presence either.
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Looks like we can thank some of our fellow Americans for some trouble in Aruba. http://www.aruba-bb.com/viewtopic.php?t=46520
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I'd love to read the article, but I do not go to the Aruba BB for any reason......can't stand the atmosphere in there.....rude rude rude !!!

Could you cut and paste the article from whatever paper it came out of for us.......
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Eddy wrote this in the Tradewinds Times.

Damage At Chasers Cafe, One Person Seriously Injured


June 28th 2007, Aruba.



Police restored order at Chasers Cafe

ORANJESTAD-What suppose to be a nice bar hopping night on board the Chiva Paranda bus, ended in a big physical fight among a group of American tourists at Chasers Cafe last Tuesday.

At the cafe there was a dispute between two Americans that resulted in a physical fight, more tourists that were part of the group joined in. A number of police officers immediately arrived at the scene to restore order.

One of the persons involved received a serious injury to the head and
had to be transported to the hospital. Police detained an American who was involved in the fight at the cafe. The cause of the big fight is still not clear.

The interior of Chasers Cafe suffered much damage. It is not known
whether the owner will have those involved in the fight pay for the
damages.

Chasers Cafe is one of the popular stops for the bar hopping
tour on board the Chiva Paranda bus. The cafe is located on the Adriaan Lacle Boulevard in Oranjestad.



Inside Chasers Cafe after the fight


Images courtesy of 24ora.
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thank you love! a few drinks in anyone from any country and the fists and mouths become dangerous. looks like it was the americans turn to be stupid.
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LovesAruba......thanks for posting the context of the article.....Sherry, so true !
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Amazing that this doesn't happen more often when you mix booze and testosterone cocktails,well shaken on a Party Bus!
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If you can't hold your liquor don't drink.
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In genreal it does sort of sound like crime is somewhat on the rise in Aruba over the last year or two. It may just be that more stuff is being reported publicly now though, its hard to say.
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I noticed most of the posts were old so Im sure the crime rate has been growing. Coming from a law enforcement background I can see that Aruba is a prime location for drug traffickers and human traffickers. The police are slow to respond because they dont want to affect tourist dollars. If Aruba is building they have money so the police force should be larger and the technology should be made available to find people like Natalee Holloway. Unfortunately the level of corruption unseen by tourists is undoubtedly flourishing and the petty crimes will probably continue because of the lack of fear by the criminals of the police. The drug traffickers always tend to keep a low profile because they dont want to be noticed so they can continue to thrive. If students from the US want to go to Aruba they need to be very careful of their surroundings and dont trust the locals who know what they are doing and know how to make people disappear.
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ok, i am going to take this opportunity to explain a few things. first of all, you may be from a law enforcement background but you are a bit off base. second, you state you have never even been to aruba which gives you no opportunity to have any knowledge.

i personally have had some opportunity after a burglary to deal with the 'locals'. i can tell you that they took the time to investigate. they took fingerprints and palm prints. they even found a drop of blood that no one else saw. 6 months later my home in baltimore was burglarized. they didn't bother to do a damned thing. they barely did a police report.

as to the natalee situation. they did so much more (i was involved personally with some of it) than my community does in the states. there were more searches, more people involved in searching, and more help called in than my community ever has thought of using. the island was given a bad reputation after busting butts to try to find natalee.

now, every thing you have stated is exactly the same in yorba california, isn't it? there is construction so there is corruption, petty crime, major crime, murder, drugs, and teens on vacation that unfortunately go missing.

aruba is not a third world country. they have the same technology you have in california. they have as good or a better educational system. they have more than two major political parties and most of their country actually takes the time to get involved and vote, unlike our country. they have socialized medicine and better protection for employees than any of us have.

they also have a prison that actually treats prisoners like they did something wrong. it's hot, and miserable and they don't get dessert.

so, maybe you need to travel to aruba and get an education.

btw, i am not usually this rude but when people come to this forum, and their first comment is in the safety section with a generalization that is insulting rather than asking questions i get suspicious of motivation.

so stay around and learn about aruba. it's sure a lot better than you seem to think.

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I noticed most of the posts were old so Im sure the crime rate has been growing. Coming from a law enforcement background I can see that Aruba is a prime location for drug traffickers and human traffickers. The police are slow to respond because they dont want to affect tourist dollars. If Aruba is building they have money so the police force should be larger and the technology should be made available to find people like Natalee Holloway. Unfortunately the level of corruption unseen by tourists is undoubtedly flourishing and the petty crimes will probably continue because of the lack of fear by the criminals of the police. The drug traffickers always tend to keep a low profile because they dont want to be noticed so they can continue to thrive. If students from the US want to go to Aruba they need to be very careful of their surroundings and dont trust the locals who know what they are doing and know how to make people disappear.
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Well said, Sherry!
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You say it well, Sherry. I also think that perhaps a mention of the efforts of the new Govt in policing and crime prevention should also be highlighted. Our new member should look at some of the other Caribbean islands and compare Aruba after that analysis.
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Bravo Sherry. My mouth was hanging on the floor at oldoutlaw and his rantings of ignorance. Sorry if that's harsh, but wow did he get my back up on this. I too have had to deal with Aruban law enforcement a couple of times over the past 15 or so years for car vandalism, etc., (and truly it's few and far between). They have been nothing but diligent and very committed to their jobs. They always followed through to the best of their ability, even taking time to call us back to see how we were doing, etc. Here where I live, although thankfully again it's few and far between for me personally, the police seem to think that filing a report is the end of their job! Oldoutlaw, you're WAY off base here.
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We really dislike getting involved with 'political' discussions. But....to observe the law in Aruba from a distance is tantamount to a doctor saying that the practice of medicine in Aruba is archaic because he has spoken with other doctors about it. Aruba is an independent country; their laws may not be as stringent as they are in other parts of the world. The tragic Natalee Holloway episode was, fortunately, an abberation, not something that happens every day, month, year, etc. Its ok to make observations; lets make them fairly!!
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