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Old Wednesday, March 4th, 2009, 11:04 AM
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Don't understand the entire thing on the news but it has been on the ATV news a lot lately (with a live shot outside of the RUI - so you know it's important) about all the breakins at the hotel. The trip advisor site is calling
for a boycott of the RUI - haven't looked at the site much
but they showed all the posts on TV.

They showed the balconies - so they must be climbing up the building
and then putting a do not disturb sign on the door. They showed
the safes - so I get that is the target of the thefts.

Also heard the word "gang" which doesn't give me warm fuzzies.
If anyone else saw this or can understand papimento (there
is an article about it on the dario website - would like to know
what's going on.

Hate to post this stuff to the board - but please lock up your stuff.
Also see if the front desk can hold your major stuff (passport,etc)
just to be safe!!
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This was translated from dutch to english. This is an Amigoe article

Hotel RIU under very of burgled
3 March, 2009, 16:12 (GMT -04:00)

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The golf of especially only burgled lijken the RIU hotel to find. Citycity CITy - - Richard Velasco, general manager of RIU stop ace makes himself looks concerning the bad reporting around the golf of burgled in its hotel. The constant bulletins on the popular review site tripadvisor.com concerning robber stable in hotel chambers, of stuff which becomes ontvreemd until breaking open fire castes, continue pursue him.
We get two up to three e-mails per week. People want know how sits with all those bulletins concerning robber stable in the hotel. We mail always immediately to demote their rested, but almost never get then answer.
Of the reviews on sniffing Advisor many are not correct according to Velasco. Nothing has been stolen from fire castes. A number of these people does be able get money it purely in or an other manner of our. Velasco say that charges there are less but no direct link with the bad user reviews wants lay. It can also be due to the economy, but fact is that indeed less is booked the last time. Exact figures cannot give the director.
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The matter has attracted the necessary attention of the local press, Velasco find it frappant that correctly this group RIU's quotes negative to affiliatie at Ahata always. These burgled have to experience nothing there. But me was nevertheless asked constantly why we have not been dovetailed Ahata. Ahata do not concern our security. It is not as in the thirties in which a coordinating organisation ensures protectie in exchange of participation. Ahata are a marketing organisation and RIU do its own marketing. That we have mutually agreed this way. Why political persť must an issue become in this situation?
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Velasco find that there in the evening hours too little police force on the leg is at the hotels. Between eleven hours s'avonds and seven hours s'ochtends are no Visibility team and are there there but four agents on the office of North. And they must be ready for the complete hotel sniffing? How this is possible? The general manager want give himself no exact figures concerning the number burgled that it has been committed in its hotel. That type can lead information only to less charges. However, he can communicate that the police force has arrested a burglar. police force spokesman Papito Comenencia endorses this. It concerns an acquaintance of the police force that none (ex) employee of the hotel is. The research has not yet expired but is according to Comenencia as yet no indication of that it would concern inside job' by employees of RIU stop ace. Also the hotel the victim communicates that he has been of but-kindest fifteen incidents of burgling or robber stable in the previous month only. In chambers, fire castes and on the range. Everywhere. The spokesman pities himself however concerning the lack of security supplies. There nowhere cameras stand if that there were, however, then there much less burgled and had we our work improve can do. Also he refutes the proposition of Velasco that there too few agents in the buurt would be after eleven hours s evening. Look to the other hotels, in the past three months is there on the rest of strips but burgled or two. THE RIU are first of all possible but improve at themselves at rade go for a solution of this problem.

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Rob Smith, believes director of Ahata just like Comenencia that RIU stop ace himself are responsible for the security in its own area. Nevertheless the Visibility team patrol there also, in spite of according to Smith the fact that RIU are no member of Ahata and therefore does not join in paying for this service. It is funny that they previous year of all hotels on the highrise strips to the Visibility team most have appealed. And in spite of that the night shift small is, the work that becomes is provided adequate. According to Smith in spite of the increase of crime on the island the number of incidents in the areas of the hotels has remained low. Smith confirms tevens that attempts have been get the top of the hotel barracks up to that point still member to become of Ahata, but that these had led to nothing. They did not try best interest' take part it in their `.
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Old Wednesday, March 4th, 2009, 11:55 AM
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Lizzardo's Article translated:

Diario interviewed Mr. Velazco...They have about 2-3 thefts a week...

They said the police knows who the thieves are.. Managament reported robberies, and tourists also while they found a person in their room..

Tourists also submitted pictures of the people envolved with the robberies and identified the robbers. Cops arrest them, and 10 days later are released....

Velasco said that the prosecutor knows about the cases. Police is investigating, while the RIU showed up a few times. Tourists see police at the hotel numerous times and started wondering and getting afraid robbers would enter their rooms.

RIU said they explained to tourists they have extra security now, but even like that, robbers know how to get around the security, one nights one entered a room, and managed to take a table out.

According to Vleasco there were two guys, one short dark colored, and the other skinny tall one.

He asked for help from the minister concerned, the district attorney, and the police, and asked for more cops to patrol the high rise area.

You can't just work with 4 cops. You need to have more walk on the beaches, and protect the tourists who walk on the beach at night.

He also said that with Trip Advisor many people canceled their stay and that they don't only talk about the RIU, but Aruba in general, and what is happening here with the rise in crime.

He said he's not criticizing anyone. The Police do their jobs, but if cops are tied up what else can we do?

He also asked to add undercover surveillance. The robbers don't come in with helicopters. He shows up walking with his accomplices.
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Hummmm, now I don't know what to do! We were really considering staying at the Riu in April but now I am not so sure after reading this.

For 14 years, we've stayed at the Holiday Inn and although most do not understand, we love it there. Unfortunatley, they changed the 'rules' for Canadians and they now are putting us in the worst tower available. Sure, you can stay in one of the rennovated towers but it will cost you! Yes, I did complain to the hotel and their reply was basically, pay the extra or stay in a mouldy room that is far away from everything and very secluded where I don't feel safe. I am so disappointment in them! They just lost one of their best customers who has referred many others who have stay there. I will miss the staff but will stop in to say hello.

So, all that being said, we are traveling there this April with friends from Vancouver and we haven't seen them a very long time. After years of bragging about Aruba, the pressure is on the find the most reasonable accomodation (all-inclusive) and show them the time of their lives.

Our travel agent offered us to stay at the Riu for the same price as the Holiday Inn. Should I be worried or just book it?

Suggestions?

Thanks!

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Hummmm, now I don't know what to do! We were really considering staying at the Riu in April but now I am not so sure after reading this.

For 14 years, we've stayed at the Holiday Inn and although most do not understand, we love it there. Unfortunatley, they changed the 'rules' for Canadians and they now are putting us in the worst tower available. Sure, you can stay in one of the rennovated towers but it will cost you! Yes, I did complain to the hotel and their reply was basically, pay the extra or stay in a mouldy room that is far away from everything and very secluded where I don't feel safe. I am so disappointment in them! They just lost one of their best customers who has referred many others who have stay there. I will miss the staff but will stop in to say hello.

So, all that being said, we are traveling there this April with friends from Vancouver and we haven't seen them a very long time. After years of bragging about Aruba, the pressure is on the find the most reasonable accomodation (all-inclusive) and show them the time of their lives.

Our travel agent offered us to stay at the Riu for the same price as the Holiday Inn. Should I be worried or just book it?

Suggestions?

Thanks!

Cathy
We walked through the pool area there and it was lovely. Nice beach area too.
Wanted to eat at one of their restaurants but you cant eat there unless you are staying there so dont know about the food. Casino is small.
If AI is a must for you then stay there. Just keep anything of value locked up or on you. Better yet, do like we do and dont take anything with you that is more valuable than a camera. You will know to keep your eyes open for anything that looks suspicious.
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My advice would be to skip the RIU and stay at the Occidental all inclusive. Had friends stay there and said everything was wonderful including the food. I would feel safer there than at the RIU.
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I tried to have a look at the pool area one day, entering from the promenade along the beach. Security stopped me and Mrs. 44 dead in our tracks. Would not let us in. Was polite and said we should go around to the front and enter from there. I didn't go, instead heading down to another property.

There are some negative things happening with regard to burglary and such in Aruba these days. I am very disappointed in my conversations with my Aruban friends who seem to think these acts are being committed by specific groups and that tourists are exaggerating.

The fact is, the police need to do more and they need to be aggressive. Tolerating reckless and criminal behavior will only ruin what is a beautiful place.

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The Riu does not belong to the Visibilty Team-I think that is what it is called. All other resorts pay for this but the Riu never joined. They want what the others have without paying for it. 2 security guards are not enough for a property that size. If you come in from the lobby you can enter all bldgs. and some hallways and rooms right off the ramp into the bldg.
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Well, we booked the Rui for April 5th arrival. It was the best deal available. We looked at every option and this was it. Wish us luck! I will let you know how we make out
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Well, we booked the Rui for April 5th arrival. It was the best deal available. We looked at every option and this was it. Wish us luck! I will let you know how we make out
Cant wait for your report.
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The Riu does not belong to the Visibilty Team-I think that is what it is called. All other resorts pay for this but the Riu never joined. They want what the others have without paying for it. 2 security guards are not enough for a property that size. If you come in from the lobby you can enter all bldgs. and some hallways and rooms right off the ramp into the bldg.
We came into the pool area beachside when it was first open to see the monstrosity in person. Walked everywhere, in and out - no one seemed to care or bother us.
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I think you'll be fine if you do the following:

I'd bring amex travelers checks and nothing real as far as jewelry. I'd keep your passport, tickets behind the desk. Don't forget to make a copy of your passport, tickets and any credit cards and put them somewhere so if anything does happen it's easy to call and cancel the card or get a new passport.

If you have a laptop - not sure what you'd do with that - some other people have posted locks for them. If you have a really good camera - either get disposables or bring some cards for it and store the full ones in the safe too.
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does anyone know if LaCabana has a hotel safe??
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I'm happy to be at Aruba Beach Club. To the best of my knowledge we have not had room break-ins recently. I do, however, keep passport, credit cards, camera, etc in the room safe. Haven't had to resort to using the office safe. Laptop computer sits on the dining room table at all times.
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I'm happy to be at Aruba Beach Club. To the best of my knowledge we have not had room break-ins recently. I do, however, keep passport, credit cards, camera, etc in the room safe. Haven't had to resort to using the office safe. Laptop computer sits on the dining room table at all times.
Me, too. Everything's in the room safe, but like Mary, my laptop always sit on the table, and is rarely, if ever, turned off.
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advice from someone who knows. first check the safe. your room safe is 'safe' from anyone and everyone except the staff with the security keys if it is secured on the wall with a base under it or concreted into something that makes it impossible to steal.

let me explain...

if the safe is in the wall without a pedestal under it to support it, anyone can stand on top of it, push off of the ceiling with their hands and snap the sucker right off of the wall. believe me when i say that's the way it is done.

therefore, unless there is something under it and behind it, it is way easy to remove the safe, flop it in a suitcase, and take it out of the room as if you are a resident checking out.

so, check your safe... see if it is secured. remember at that time that if it is, only an insider can break in. you know who to accuse. also, you will see posted on the wall, door or somewhere in your check-in papers, that the hotel is not liable for anything left in the room including in the safe and only are liable for items left with hotel security so...

write down the serial number of anything you take with you. save your receipts from these expensive items. make sure your homeowners insurance covers it all. take the numbers for your travelers checks. leave that jewelry home. be smart instead of stupid.

if your safe is secure, put the damned laptop in it. leaving it out means your homeowners may not replace it. you are talking about the time it takes to open the safe, turn it on and sign in.

add to all of this by remembering to leave all passwords with someone you trust in case you are burglarized. but more than that, password protect your laptop. some of the upper end laptops only will turn on with a finger print. for the rest of us, that password may mean the difference between having money in your bank account or on your credit card when you get to check the internet again.

this is not just a warning for aruba. it is a warning for travelers anywhere and everywhere.

understand that everything i have written i learned from personal experience. these are not haphazard warnings. been there. done that. had the hassle.

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Me, too. Everything's in the room safe, but like Mary, my laptop always sit on the table, and is rarely, if ever, turned off.
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Points well taken.

I know, for a fact, that our safes are not large enough for a laptop. They're also well secured.

Luckily, in all the years that I've taken a laptop with me, although I know there's always a first time, nothing's happened. And, ABC has definitely stepped up security... makes me feel really comfortable, and I've not heard of any recent thefts other than a car recently in the parking lot of CDM.
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understand elaine that i am not blaming the victims but we all do foolish things. think about it. we wear rings to the casino and then don't wear them to the beach. the 'tourist' sitting next to you at the casino is watching your beach. he isn't really there to sit on the beach. he came to aruba to steal. your ring is in the room... no other description of the result necessary.

we tend to leave our brains home when we go on a vacation. before you leave your home and before you leave your room you need to think like a criminal. it is sad that we all have to be a bit paranoid but we do.

more often than not, the thieves fit into one of two categories. they are either employees or tourists. i hate to say it but suspect everyone.

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Points well taken.

I know, for a fact, that our safes are not large enough for a laptop. They're also well secured.

Luckily, in all the years that I've taken a laptop with me, although I know there's always a first time, nothing's happened. And, ABC has definitely stepped up security... makes me feel really comfortable, and I've not heard of any recent thefts other than a car recently in the parking lot of CDM.
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Actually on the news they have been concerned that is a "gang" or "ring" of people.
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I appreciate all the warnings but I'm not lying when I say I am so freaked out! Know that I am taking all at heart but I am so worried now! Isn't vacations supposed to be fun? I can just see myself being mother hen the entire time with husband and friends. Maybe we should have just booked at the Holiday Inn like we have done for so many years! Arg, did we just make a huge mistake? I guess I will find out in 3 weeks.

Thank you all for filling me in. I will be ironman on vacation to ensure everyone is safe and happy. I can see myself now looking out for all which all vacationers should do!

We fell in love with Aruba due to the safety and non poverty but it looks like times are changing. That makes me sad!

Thank you for all of your advice. I no longer have that "it will never happen to me" feeling and will be on alert...unfortunatley!
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Sherry, agree with all you wrote, couldn't have said it better. Just to add for laptop, when at Divi Dutch it fit in the safe and that's where it was when not in the room. At CDM locked it in a suitcase in a closet with another empty suitcase on top. Secure? Not really but at least would take a little effort to find. Also, lock up power cord, discs etc. If it is not known that you have a laptop, probably won't waste time looking for it.

To secure with a laptop lock you must find something big and heavy enough to run the cable to. Would still like to keep it out of sight. Not sure what is available.
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Follow Sherry's advise and you should be fine. I would bet that the rooms stolen from were not picked at random. All hotels have too many rooms for that. The rooms were picked for a reason. Could be talking too much, flashing cash, jewelry or sitting by the pool with your laptop. Just keep your valuables out of sight as much as possible and you'll be ok.
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cathy, understand that this isn't an aruba problem. i had my 'event' in aruba but it happens everywhere. aruba is small change in the crime department compared to other places. the fact that they caught the major in house criminals means that the riu is probably the safest place in the tourist kingdoms for a while. the crooks know that people are watching for them and will lie low.

everything i posted should be observed at the holiday inn, costa linda, or for that matter, any hotel, timeshare, motel, short term rental anywhere in the world. aruba is the example because aruba is our topic.

relax and go. we were burglarized in may and were back in aruba in august. i came home and booked my next trip for this august, wishing that finances could put me back there sooner. the only difference in my case was the august trip had little cash because insurance will not reimburse cash over $200.

and yes, times are changing everywhere. we were burglarized at home the weekend before thanksgiving. we live in a typical middle class neighborhood and the police told me that crime is rampant now with the economy in sad shape. it's sad and scary and having been victims twice in 6 months i am not a happy camper. however, as you can see, it happened at home and to me that was worse.

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I appreciate all the warnings but I'm not lying when I say I am so freaked out! Know that I am taking all at heart but I am so worried now! Isn't vacations supposed to be fun? I can just see myself being mother hen the entire time with husband and friends. Maybe we should have just booked at the Holiday Inn like we have done for so many years! Arg, did we just make a huge mistake? I guess I will find out in 3 weeks.

Thank you all for filling me in. I will be ironman on vacation to ensure everyone is safe and happy. I can see myself now looking out for all which all vacationers should do!

We fell in love with Aruba due to the safety and non poverty but it looks like times are changing. That makes me sad!

Thank you for all of your advice. I no longer have that "it will never happen to me" feeling and will be on alert...unfortunatley!
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