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Old Saturday, January 17th, 2009, 09:49 AM
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The newspaper --24 ora-- just had an article on where in early Friday am, at the Rennasaince Hotel a man boldly walked up to the purse/handbag of the tourists who were in the pool, and he removed the cash and camera and then skidaddle away....police had no result.
A general warning/advise was noted a few days ago in the locals: regarding rampart theft occurring at the houses in Malmok;;;; and that several arrests had been made of hotel employees who are robbing the clients' rooms.
There is an acute problem with cost of living/earnings(primarily with foreighners) that is escalating this problem, throughout the Island....
...is smart to be aware, and alert....!!!!!!
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In 2007, our room was entered with an electronic key, the locked safe (key lock) was opened, contents removed and the hotel said there was no record of anyone opening the door (which was logged in electronically). We lost $500 and a camera. This was clearly an inside job because the safe was not tampered with and the record of entering the door was erased. The hotel was kind enough to give us accomodations booked with Interval for a future time but the safe feeling we always held in Aruba was shattered.

To the honeymooners who stayed at RIU and were treated as if they did something wrong, you now have a story from a different property that matches yours.
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Don, what hotel if you don't mind me asking?
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Along with hotel breakins there is the issue of car vandalism. One of our friends related a story of how the man she rented from called her to say that her car had been stolen from the CDM parking lot. It was totally stripped to the amount of $8000. Of course when I heard about it, I went out to the lot and moved my car as close as I could to the security office. I have always rented a car while in Aruba but I will give a second thought to it next year.
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Had my neighbor have the same thing done to him -
others had posted that american express offers
theft/vandalism insurance which can shield you because
the other insurance that most rental car agencies have
do not cover that. And if you have an issue like this
they can stop you from leaving the island!
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Old Wednesday, March 11th, 2009, 09:34 AM
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The car was rented at CDM, and according to the rental agency, the rental agency had/has no insurance on any of their cars which I find hard to believe. Ironically, the car hadn't even been used by the renters prior to it being stolen.
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Same with Amigoe - the agency who this person dealt with. Car taken,
guy found it in the country side, Amigoe towed it to their office, did not call the police, when they went to look at the car (a white yaris) - they saw all these spare white yaris parts in his garage that happened to match what was taken from their car.

Use american express insurance folks - it's like $28 bucks and wil avoid any of these nightmares from happening to you!
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Same with Amigoe - the agency who this person dealt with. Car taken,
guy found it in the country side, Amigoe towed it to their office, did not call the police, when they went to look at the car (a white yaris) - they saw all these spare white yaris parts in his garage that happened to match what was taken from their car.

Use american express insurance folks - it's like $28 bucks and wil avoid any of these nightmares from happening to you!
We were going to rent a car for one day during our first week of vacation. I was reading the contract over and noticed nothing about theft insurance (because I remembered your thread about this, Liz). When I asked the agent about it, he said that type of insurance was not available. I started to balk. I asked what kind of car it was, and of course it was a yaris. Then I asked what color and of course it was white. My husband, Dan, thought I was just being silly so we were going to go ahead and rent it anyway. Well, it turned out our credit card had been compromised, so it was declined. We never did end up renting a car. The day before we left Aruba, we saw a white yaris on blocks. All 4 wheels and tires gone. I made a believer out of Dan!
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WOW! That's an amazing story!! Dodged that bullet! Better than winning at the casino.
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Don, which sports do you referee? Which state?
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WOW! That's an amazing story!! Dodged that bullet! Better than winning at the casino.
I did that too, Liz. Won $1,000 at video poker at the Stellaris Casino.
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One week from today, we'll be at the rennaissance for 3 nights, then on to the surf club for a week. I hadn't ever heard of this much crime of any kind there, truly never. What's going on? Are the cops there competent to figure this stuff out? I tell everyone i know to buy there because it is so safe, and now i hear all this for the first time.

has anyone heard of anything going on at or near the surf club? has anyone heard of any recent personal crime, like mugging, *** crimes, holdups, assaults? i honestly am not as concerned about the car stuff, as i would always use my own insurance, although folks who do that most likely do other stuff. the personal, up close stuff is what makes me a little more wary. after retiring from professional law enforcement, i go to these other countries, and do not arm myself. i never really carried much off duty anyway, but the mindset of the typical bad guy these dasys is actually anything but typical, and becoming increasingly unpredictable and hostile, with so little impulse control. some folks will do almost anything, real opportunists.

i certainly hope they get a handle on this stuff. i just love it there, but if it gets like so many of the other islands, well, there are other places to go, both in the U.S. and elsewhere. sure would miss that turquoise water though.
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the major ring that was going after the hotel crowd at the riu has be caught. muggings and hold ups are still a rarity and s-e-x crimes (stupid automated censor software, lol) are about unheard of. car stuff is the major thing and so are burglaries not robberies. even then, we hear the reports and honestly i have beem a victim, but in general, these crimes are nowhere near what we have in the states.

understand that the reason it gets so much publicity now is that until recently, there was almost no crime at any time on aruba. now they are catching up a bit. violent crime fortunately is not a major concern. it seems to be property crime that is the problem. your car or homeowners will take care of those.

just do the normal precautions you would use at home and you will be fine. you know the drill. just don't leave your brain at home like many tourists do.

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One week from today, we'll be at the rennaissance for 3 nights, then on to the surf club for a week. I hadn't ever heard of this much crime of any kind there, truly never. What's going on? Are the cops there competent to figure this stuff out? I tell everyone i know to buy there because it is so safe, and now i hear all this for the first time.

has anyone heard of anything going on at or near the surf club? has anyone heard of any recent personal crime, like mugging, *** crimes, holdups, assaults? i honestly am not as concerned about the car stuff, as i would always use my own insurance, although folks who do that most likely do other stuff. the personal, up close stuff is what makes me a little more wary. after retiring from professional law enforcement, i go to these other countries, and do not arm myself. i never really carried much off duty anyway, but the mindset of the typical bad guy these dasys is actually anything but typical, and becoming increasingly unpredictable and hostile, with so little impulse control. some folks will do almost anything, real opportunists.

i certainly hope they get a handle on this stuff. i just love it there, but if it gets like so many of the other islands, well, there are other places to go, both in the U.S. and elsewhere. sure would miss that turquoise water though.
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thanks for the update sherry. so, after looking around on this site a little bit, it appears you are one of the moderators of this particular forum, and it seems, others? how does that work? does a group of users simply pick someone, or is this actually a job? i certainly do not mean that the way it might sound. Sounds like you have some type of formal position here. just trrying to figure it all out as i'm still pretty new here. either that or you are a very active volunteer.

glad to hear that the ring is busted. nice to hear that someone knows the difference between a burglary and a robbery. i can't tell you how many citizens i have talked to for so many years that all used the term robbery for virtually everything. just a goofy thought of mine.

anyway, we are all excited about getting there. counting down the days. the three initial days will be glorious, as it will be couple time. haven't done that in a while. spent a week in maui two years ago with my queen, and that was the last couple-away time we've had. the rest of the crew is fun too, but once in a while it's nice to connect with each other.

i like this forum talk. seems there is one for about everything. i check every couple days to see if there's anything new. at some point i'll be able to navigate around. right now, i guess i'll just talk to some nice folks, and who knows, maybe i'll meet someone off here someday. there's a whole lot of information here, and boy, a whole lot of opinion too. happy trails.
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and what is the difference between a junior member and a senior member?? i'm figuring length of time in.
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it's number of posts not length of time.

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lots of questions, lol.

i am the lead moderator and have been since the forum was redone in april of 2004. i am unpaid. i was actually volunteered by the webmasters. it's a long boring story that i will only tell if you really are interested. the other moderators i have begged into volunteering.

it is a formal position in that i was asked by the webmasters and only have them to answer to although they are younger than i am so i usually can cajole them into getting my way, lol. i am active because i spend time on the computer. i try to check in several times a day and you happen to be asking questions when i am sitting on my behind playing some computer games and checking in on the forum.

i certainly am one who knows the difference between burglary and robbery. i have had the misfortunte of being burglarized twice in the last year. once at home and once in aruba. i am happy it was burglary instead of robbery. material things i can replace.

i wish it was time for us to go again. we have to wait until august. we try to make aruba a peaceful vacation with few or no friends invited. i do understand that time alone philosophy. friends are fun but together time is really nice.

with luck you will meet people from the forum. we have thru the years and it is great. several have become good and important friends. it's also great to put faces to the people you chat with. here's pics of some of them. if you click on the pics you will get to see some names.

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thanks for the update sherry. so, after looking around on this site a little bit, it appears you are one of the moderators of this particular forum, and it seems, others? how does that work? does a group of users simply pick someone, or is this actually a job? i certainly do not mean that the way it might sound. Sounds like you have some type of formal position here. just trrying to figure it all out as i'm still pretty new here. either that or you are a very active volunteer.

glad to hear that the ring is busted. nice to hear that someone knows the difference between a burglary and a robbery. i can't tell you how many citizens i have talked to for so many years that all used the term robbery for virtually everything. just a goofy thought of mine.

anyway, we are all excited about getting there. counting down the days. the three initial days will be glorious, as it will be couple time. haven't done that in a while. spent a week in maui two years ago with my queen, and that was the last couple-away time we've had. the rest of the crew is fun too, but once in a while it's nice to connect with each other.

i like this forum talk. seems there is one for about everything. i check every couple days to see if there's anything new. at some point i'll be able to navigate around. right now, i guess i'll just talk to some nice folks, and who knows, maybe i'll meet someone off here someday. there's a whole lot of information here, and boy, a whole lot of opinion too. happy trails.
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I read all the talk about crime, etc. Well, I returned from Aruba Feb. 28 and while there I heard of no incidences of crime except for a car that was stollen from the parking lot at CDM. I walk all around Aruba (and drive). I walk across to the Alhambra at odd times in the evening, and never hesitate to walk alone. Perhaps I am naive or too trusting, but because I have not heard of any muggings, etc. it doesn't phase me. My friend and his wife are in Aruba for 3 months -- he is a retired inner city policeman. He has not mentioned any crimes that have taken place. The only thing he has spoken of is perhaps walking around the harbor in the evening and seeing possible drug dealers, etc.
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islanddog ~ welcome to our board! It's refreshing to have someone ask questions! Hey, I liked you as soon as I saw you were ex-law enforcement. My husband was in the same profession.

Anyway, I'm the least senior of moderators, "last hired, first fired," and sometimes need to moderate myself!!! As you become more familiar to the navigation of this board, you'll understand!! lol

Aruba has most definitely changed... but, as sherry said, we need to use good sense. To be quite honest, years ago I probably did some foolish things that I wouldn't do at this point in time... I'm certainly more aware of my surroundings now.

I can tell you that there's no where else on earth that I'd rather travel then to Aruba, and I plan on doing it for a very, very long time.
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ElaineS,


I feel sorry for you. I looked at your signature. You have to wait until year 2110??? That's 109 years from now!! I cannot imagine what Aruba will look like then...possible beach erosion, too many super condos!!

If I have to wait that long then please tell me where to find the Fountain of Youth.....or at least some good embalming fluid

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the math proficiency here is hysterical. aqua, elaine was wrong and so are you. that's 101 years. less embalming fluids needed.

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I feel sorry for you. I looked at your signature. You have to wait until year 2110??? That's 109 years from now!! I cannot imagine what Aruba will look like then...possible beach erosion, too many super condos!!

If I have to wait that long then please tell me where to find the Fountain of Youth.....or at least some good embalming fluid

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Aruba is still safe - it's just that like anywhere else in the world
you should take precautions. For example - get the amex
insurance for your car rental - it's like $48 a trip - will
eliminate any hassles just in case something happens.
Don't bring the family jewels along with you - just
stuff that if something happens to it you will not be
heartbroken. Also see if there is a safe behind the desk -
put your passport and other important docs there.

It's a great place but just like anywhere else in the world -
there will always be people looking for the "quick" buck.
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Hate to ask a dumb question, but do you have to hold an AMEX card to get the AMEX insurance? Also, it looks like the cost has increased over the life of these posts. How much does it cost?
We've had no problems with car rentals over 20 years, but I do recall an incident maybe 7 or 8 years ago. A crowd was gathered on the Malmok road (beyond Marriott). The police were dragging a rental car out of the surf (upside down in the water). They were just saying it was "joy-riding kids". Now, it may be more...organized theft.
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well, sounds like there was more publicity than major crime. good. so, we'll simply take the normal cautions, and fill our thoughts with frozen umbrella drinks. strawberry coladas to be exact. elaine, i was coordinator of crime investigations for the rochester ny police dept for many years, too many. a very big title with not near enough help or pay. retired in 2000. have my own business now, you know, a policeman's pension only takes you so far. what dept. was your husband with?

glad to be building kitchens these days, a lot safer. plus i don't have to fight for time off.

question - is there a group of contact persons in aruba to keep our moderators up to date? it can't simply filter back from folks going there. there's way too much info here, events, etc. i know, i ask way too many ?
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my favorite is a brown lady. totally awesome drink.

localisa is in aruba. in fact she is in our offices. i am given news reports and bulletins most days and i have a battery of friends living on the island along with aruban friends who send me information. it keeps me informed and when the news is worth passing on i do it. elaine also has some island sources so she can do it too.

you are a retired cop. if you didn't ask a lot of questions i would wonder how good you had been at your job.

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well, sounds like there was more publicity than major crime. good. so, we'll simply take the normal cautions, and fill our thoughts with frozen umbrella drinks. strawberry coladas to be exact. elaine, i was coordinator of crime investigations for the rochester ny police dept for many years, too many. a very big title with not near enough help or pay. retired in 2000. have my own business now, you know, a policeman's pension only takes you so far. what dept. was your husband with?

glad to be building kitchens these days, a lot safer. plus i don't have to fight for time off.

question - is there a group of contact persons in aruba to keep our moderators up to date? it can't simply filter back from folks going there. there's way too much info here, events, etc. i know, i ask way too many ?
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thanks. just made reservations at texas de brazil for the 1st of april. we love the churascarrios, and have been in Washington DC, my wife, in manhattan a few times. never been to nyc myself, one of these days. but my wife goes oncce in a while on a conference or a drug court seminar and presents or whatever. she and her supercrew of girlfriends who have all been in the drug field forever. my wife, maryjo, ran the local chemical dependancy agencies for years, or was brought in for periods of time to help them survive, and moved on, and ran the drug court here. she's very smart, i'm lucky i guess. she ate at a churrascario in nyc with the girls, and i had to laugh my arse off, as her friend referred to it as eating in the petting zoo. hah!! i can't wait.

must go cook for my queen. she works later hours so i have to be a domestic god, and i love to cook. thanks for answering so many questions. must take some doing during the busy season if you are monitoring all the forums. some seem to lay fallow for quite a while. but it seems no matter where i write in you find me. way cool.
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islanddog....nice to meet you here...I am a regular...you can find stuff I've said here if you look around some....just wondering where you're staying? I will be on the island myself (leave Saturday) and will be staying at the Surf Club. Welcome aboard..
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we too will be at the surf club, starting the 3rd of april. staying at the rennaissance for three nights first. one suitcase is already packed, with floats, noodles, snorkels, etc. the toys.

we have a platinum week, and this is a plat plus week, but now have a teacher in the family, (wierd times off) my 26 year old son's girlfriend, so we did the exchange through interval, and got this week. got lucky. was our first experience with interval and it worked out perfectly. lazy river here i come. i am a sea shell maniac. i grab a few from here and there, give everybody in the villa a few for grin and giggles, and take a few home. i have a caribbean room, my sanctuary, at our cottage, and it is filled with memorabilia from all over the caribbean. i will admit it, i am addicted to the aquamarine water. i have to go to sanibel island one of these days. it's the mecca of shelling i hear.

i have to say, i'm having a heck of a good time talking to everybody here. of course my busy season is coming up soon and i will be on less. there are kitchens and baths to be designed and built. but right now, i'm enjoying the heck out of it. i'm an e-mail junkie i guess, as some of my friends are long distance, but this is interesting. later.
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it's easy to find anyone (notice how generous i am with secrets, lol). just go to the top of this page and click on 'new posts'. it will show the posts you missed.

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we too will be at the surf club, starting the 3rd of april. staying at the rennaissance for three nights first. one suitcase is already packed, with floats, noodles, snorkels, etc. the toys.

we have a platinum week, and this is a plat plus week, but now have a teacher in the family, (wierd times off) my 26 year old son's girlfriend, so we did the exchange through interval, and got this week. got lucky. was our first experience with interval and it worked out perfectly. lazy river here i come. i am a sea shell maniac. i grab a few from here and there, give everybody in the villa a few for grin and giggles, and take a few home. i have a caribbean room, my sanctuary, at our cottage, and it is filled with memorabilia from all over the caribbean. i will admit it, i am addicted to the aquamarine water. i have to go to sanibel island one of these days. it's the mecca of shelling i hear.

i have to say, i'm having a heck of a good time talking to everybody here. of course my busy season is coming up soon and i will be on less. there are kitchens and baths to be designed and built. but right now, i'm enjoying the heck out of it. i'm an e-mail junkie i guess, as some of my friends are long distance, but this is interesting. later.
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islanddog ~ my husband climbed the ladder from beat cop to highway patrol, and then detective sgt. in the major trial unit of the Phila. DA's Office. He left the department, and opened a PI business which fared very well. He passed away in 1994, and obviously I couldn't keep the business going. Although he traveled a lot on many cases and could be away weeks at a time, it was a lot less stressful then worrying about him on the street.

You cook for your queen, you're a Mr. Fixit, you're funny.... do you have a single brother??

I feel that I have some bragging rights, so with that said, there's never a question concerning Aruba that someone on this forum doesn't know the answer to. Even though I've traveled there every year for the last 16 years, I always manage to learn something new.

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well, sounds like there was more publicity than major crime. good. so, we'll simply take the normal cautions, and fill our thoughts with frozen umbrella drinks. strawberry coladas to be exact. elaine, i was coordinator of crime investigations for the rochester ny police dept for many years, too many. a very big title with not near enough help or pay. retired in 2000. have my own business now, you know, a policeman's pension only takes you so far. what dept. was your husband with?

glad to be building kitchens these days, a lot safer. plus i don't have to fight for time off.

question - is there a group of contact persons in aruba to keep our moderators up to date? it can't simply filter back from folks going there. there's way too much info here, events, etc. i know, i ask way too many ?
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wow elaine, 16 years is a lot. it's funny, i have only been there on a cruise stop the year after we bought pre-construction, and then finally last year for the first time to occupy for a week. i feel like i've been coming for so long as we have several friends who have been coming here for many years. they all love the island, and they each have their favorite spots, and things that attract them. for me, it's the water color, the calmness and the warmth of it. i love the weather, and the choice of everything from good quality merchandise, jewelry, food, anything really. so many of the caribb islands are so darn poor, there's simply a different feel to the whole experience. you won't find anything like the palm store or palm company, not sure which, on most of the islands, and if you did, there would not be an entire area with similar stuff. i can see myself coming here each year for a long time. hopefully it will be at least 2 weeks next year.

my wife doesn't have as much flexibility in her schedule as i do, but she has the time. i just have to push her a little.

your hubby sounds like he was a good man, a real straight shooter. old school cops are very special. i learned a lot from them early on. for some reason they took me in right from the start, and i do appreciate that i was very fortunate thoughout most of my career. it was like haveing fifty senior uncles, all with a different perspective, and none afraid to give you theirs. it not for them, and their fine tutelage, i may not have had the opportunity to work the presidential personal protection detail for president george h w bush #41, (the father). my proudest time as a cop. only for a short spot in time, but way cool anyway. i guess every cop has their personal puff your chest out moment, that's mine.

i seem to be a mr fixit for everybody else. maryjo says she feels like a cobbler's kid because i don't fix ours as quickly. but i do cook, and help out a lot because she works long and hard, and hasn't a braincell left when she gets home sometimes. i try to knock off by 5, she doesn't get here til 6-6:30 most nights. besides i'm hungry by then, so, cook or starve.

sherry told me to check the top of the page for new posts....well duh. i could be surfing around forever, and all i had to do was look there. much easier.
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Back in 2005, six of us were swimming by the old half-sunken boat up a little past the Marriott. We had all walked past the Fisherman's Huts and then stopped at that beach in front of the old boat. We all swam out by the boat. After a while my husband walked back to the Marriott to get his wallet and such, and the car, because we were going to go to the lighthouse. He drove back to where we were at the beach. I was laying on the beach, as were the rest of us except for my oldest son, who was still out by the boat. My husband locked the car and swam out to my son by the boat. Me, my daughter, my youngest son and a friend stayed on the beach. Soon after, we all left to head to the lighthouse. When we got to the light house, after about 20 minutes, my youngest son wanted an icecream, but when my husband went to get his pouch, it was gone! He had put the pouch containing 2 walkie-talkies, a T-Shock watch, his wallet with cards, license and $40.00, down on the floor of the car, near the seat, but NOT UNDER the seat (hidden). Needless to say, after realizing we were robbed, we left. We were only at the lighthouse about 1/2 hour total, and then headed back to the hotel. We were going to call the police, but I noticed the light on the phone blinking with a message. It was the Police, telling my husband they had his wallet at the Police Station. When we headed down there, they were asking him if he was a NYC detective, because he had a little metal detective star (given to him by a detective friend on the NYC force) pinned on the inside of his wallet. So, he got back the wallet, with his ID and bank card and 1 credit card. The money, watch, and walkie-talkies were gone, of course. We were just happy to have the wallet back, although we cancelled the cards, as soon as we got back to the hotel. It just amazed us that the Police had that wallet within an hour's time after having been taken. That "a thief" would have the conscious to take the stuff, BUT return the ID...why? because they thought he was a detective??? hmmmmmm...

Obviously, someone used a slim-jim to get into that car. I had told my husband not to leave ANYTHING in the car or to at least hide it, after reading here NEVER to leave anything in your rental, but I guess he thought because we were right there, right over that little hill from the parking area to the beach, that it would be OK not to stuff it under the seat. Basically, they stole it right from under our noses...

Well, after reading this stuff, I will be sure not to leave anything in any car, hidden or not, and I will think twice about the safes in the rooms too.

I have to say, though, this stuff can happen anywhere, so it does not effect my love for Aruba. It just teaches me to be smarter than them. Listen, I had my purse ripped off while I was right next to it, trying on a coat, at Alexander's on Queens Blvd., in Queens, NY. I had put it on the floor, RIGHT NEXT TO ME, covered it with my jacket, tried on another coat, looking in the mirror, for about 1 minute, took off the coat, and when I picked up my jacket, my purse was GONE!!!! There was only a little old lady about 2 coat racks away from me, that never moved, and a young Asian couple, about 6 coat racks away, that were now NO WHERE to be seen!! Because there was nobody remotely near me, that's why I felt safe putting it on the floor, but STILL I covered it, lol. Obviously they crawled along behind the coat racks and then under the one I was next to, lifted my jacket, slid out my purse, crawled back and disappeared. It was Christmas time, I lost about $400.00 and my life in that purse. Now, I guard my bag with my life, I carry minimal money and only what ID I absolutely need. Another time, I was shopping with my son for his First Communion clothes at Burlington Coat Factory in PineBrook, NJ. I had a purse with short straps that hugged right under my shouder. I was leaning into the cart, going through all the shirts I was considering, when I took a step back, only to step on this Jamaiican womans, toes. I said "OH, I'm so sorry" and she said "You should be f'in sorry". The way she reacted sent off flares to my brain, and then it dawned on me that she was THAT close to me for a reason...She was not trying to get past me, because the isle was so narrow, plus she would have said "excuse me" or something if she needed to get past me, the cart, and my son in the cart. No, she was RIGHT behind me. Her friend, who I had not even noticed, was in front of my cart, pretending to be looking at shirts. Yeah, she was looking all right, looking to warn her friend...I screamed back at this B*T&ch saying "WHAT!? Don't think I don't know what you were just trying to do. You're a frigging thief trying to rob my purse! She started swearing at me, calling me all kinds of names etc. I screamed back at her "You need to go back to the flipping place you come from because this country doesn't need your SH*t here"! Funny thing is I never EVEN HEARD HER OR FELT HER PRESENCE BEHIND ME, and she was basically RIGHT ON TOP OF ME!!! The reason it hit me so quick also, was because my sister in law told be a About a time she was shopping in Macy's in Queens. She had just purchased perfume and it was in a paper bag in her purse. She had one of those over-sized purses with no zipper, just a magnetic clasp (A NO NO) and she was leaning over, just like me, and heard a rustling of the paper bag in her purse. She grapped the purse with her other hand, turned around to find some woman's hand in her purse!! She screamed for security, who came and told her to please calm down, while the woman denied having her hand in her purse, and security telling her she must be mistaken! Can you believe this? You can't make this stuff up!! It AMAZES me when I see women in the grocery store who leave their OPEN purses in the top of the cart while they have their backs turn and are checking out labels on food products. I warn them, they say "thank you" but I watch and they turn and go right back to what they were doing. Guess you have to be a victim before you learn... Live and learn!!!

By the way, we are going back to Aruba this August, so this is nothing really against Aruba. Like I said, happens everywhere!!!
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By the way, my Dad was a Newark, NJ cop for 25 years, before he passed. It's in my blood!! LOL
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Here's some good news about the crime situation in Aruba. Many arrests have been made in the last couple of weeks. I posted an article from the Diario on my blog showing how a 17 year old guy was caught with the goods on him. Also, some arrests were made for car thievery.

So, we'll see how the punishment goes but at least some action is being taken.

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Off Topic A Bit --- Islanddog, if you're going to Texas de Brazil get the 15% coupon out of the free papers at your resort.
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I leave for Aruba this Saturday. I am going with three of my girlfriends, and we are really looking forward to catching some of this island excitement that those of you who have spent time in Aruba have. My concern is that we are all staying at the Riu. I keep reading...and honestly, I should turn my computer off and just start packing my bags, but I am seeing so many stories of hotel room theft. I have traveled a lot, and understand being smart and aware of my surroundings, but my concern is hotel room safety. I'm not taking expensive jewelry as I am a flip-flop kind of girl, but I will have my camera, passports, some cash, etc. Is this stuff safe in the safe in my room? I don't want to spend my week in paradise wondering if I am going to walk into my room and notice that someone has gone through my things. Any insight into this situation or tips would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
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I leave for Aruba this Saturday. I am going with three of my girlfriends, and we are really looking forward to catching some of this island excitement that those of you who have spent time in Aruba have. My concern is that we are all staying at the Riu. I keep reading...and honestly, I should turn my computer off and just start packing my bags, but I am seeing so many stories of hotel room theft. I have traveled a lot, and understand being smart and aware of my surroundings, but my concern is hotel room safety. I'm not taking expensive jewelry as I am a flip-flop kind of girl, but I will have my camera, passports, some cash, etc. Is this stuff safe in the safe in my room? I don't want to spend my week in paradise wondering if I am going to walk into my room and notice that someone has gone through my things. Any insight into this situation or tips would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
The truth is, there have been problems at the Riu. There were also some recent arrests of Riu staff members. I haven't heard of any problems since the arrests were made. Maybe someone else has more insight into the situation.
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Where are my manners? Bon bini to the board, Juliann!! I hope your trip is the best trip of your life. Take your common sense with you and take ordinary precautions and you should be fine.
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You sound like you have a good head and I think you'll do fine.
I wouldn't bring your camera or valuables to the beach as
that is a "snatch" zone - as with most tourist sites anywhere.

I would ask if you can put your airline tickets, passport and
other valuable things at the safe they usually have in
the "desk".

Another thing I always do - make copies of your passport and cc
and put it somewhere in the room like your luggage. I also
have a "vacation / internet buying" card which I have the limit
set low so if someone does get it - you will only have a min.
of impact to get settled if something does happen. Most
cards give crazy limits - they also are clueless when you
ask them to lower the rates and you have to check once
in a while as they tend to creep up.

Another thing to consider - do not bring your debt card linked to your
bank - that can wipe out all the money you have in the bank -
even tho cc charge you for ATMs - it is worth it.

Can you tell I have a massive financial backround -
and also in IT soley ran a companies credit card processing.
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Thanks guys! I can't wait, and I'm not going to let this hotel crime thing spoil my fun. I'll let you know how my trip went when I get back. I'll be there in 3 days...YIPEE!!
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I have an ATM card that I take with me, and I also take my laptop so I have internet access (there are also internet kiosks everywhere). My ATM card is linked to my checking account, so before I leave I move most of the money from my checking account to my savings account, and then I move it back over little by little as I need it. I don't traditionally make big purchases in Aruba (well, okay, maybe a few times.....) so I don't keep more than a couple of hundred dollars in my account at a time. That way I don't have to mess with credit cards. As an aside, if you are using a credit card, make sure you call them beforehand and let them know you are traveling. I learned that lesson the hard way - went on a trip with my dad and when we went to check out of the hotel, my credit card wouldn't work. It was the only one I had with me, and I had no balance on it at all. The transaction "flagged" because I was so far from home, and they told me the next time to call before and let them know before I leave. Also, as Liz said, copy your passports, etc. - and leave a copy at home as well. I copy my passport, airline ticket, and reservation confirmation and then leave them with my assistant (or my sister, depending on when I am going) so that I know where they are if I need them.

Sorry for the long post. Have a great trip!
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We were in the Seaport Mall last night (maybe around 6) and a woman had just "almost" been mugged. Her purse strap was ripped, but I guess she managed to hold onto it. We saw here giving a report to a few police officers. I was shocked-daylight at the Seaport seems pretty bold. I haven't even been carrying my wristlet-I keep my camera in my pocket and my husband carries his wallet.
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I'm really saddened to keep hearing these stories.
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i simply can't believe all this crime talk. until the holloway girl, i had never heard of any significant crime there. and that was not even a random thing.

the hotel crime i can understand from time to time, but we haven't heard of any at the surf club, yet. during the day there is a lot of security around, outside anyway. i think the occasional dishonest guest or tempted kid maght make off with something from a chair once in a while, but the term hotel crime lends itself to a far larger and more vague interpretation. there are dishonest people, or those who will succumb to temptation or desperation anywhere and anytime. that being said, for the most part, you can prevent most of it on your own with basic common sense. believe me, i arrested thousands of them over the years.

i think no matter where you go you are at some level of risk, and some of it depends on how easily you set yourself up. although there will always be opportunists, i have never felt as vulnerable there as on a city street in the states. in aruba, i have seen where packages are left piled inside of a rental car, or luggage, briefcases, laptops. not everyone on this or any island is a tourist spending their the family fortune on trivialities, gifts, jewelry etc. if you stick it under someone's nose long enough, sooner or later the have not who has even less will react. at least that's what the bad guys have told me over the years. we make it into an easy buffet for them. and who is to question them when they go into a car? not me. i don't know if it's their car or not, as i watch hundreds of folks go in and out of cars all day, especially downtown.

i think the majority of the larceny from vehicles would stop if we all would use the trunk, or disguise things a little better. or maybe we could actually carry a few things rather than put it all in the car. i used to use the example when talking to community groups of a lady who left a fuzzy ring box on the console of her car all the time. three times her car was broken into..........for the dollar or so in coins that was kept in the ring box. she simply could not understand that the ring box was the pull. same in aruba. thousands of people a day go to the jewelry stores for their "free gift", and leave bags in their cars that are labeled - DIAMONDS!!! DUH!!

as far as the personal crime goes, they need to go to the prison on the other side of the island for a nice long stay,
(or be forced to drive a plow all year in western new york or northern minnesota.) there are so many of us retired cops in aruba that i wonder, if they let us arm ourselves, or take...."other appropriate action", i think we could track down any major players very quickly, and truly have an impact on the thought process of most potential offenders.

if people would just be smart and cautious crime would go way down. when you are not, you put us all at risk.
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art, thank you for that. we do have a safety section where we cover much of this. i wish more people would read it. although some crime can't be prevented, much of what we read on this forum can be handled with a little common sense.

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i simply can't believe all this crime talk. until the holloway girl, i had never heard of any significant crime there. and that was not even a random thing.

the hotel crime i can understand from time to time, but we haven't heard of any at the surf club, yet. during the day there is a lot of security around, outside anyway. i think the occasional dishonest guest or tempted kid maght make off with something from a chair once in a while, but the term hotel crime lends itself to a far larger and more vague interpretation. there are dishonest people, or those who will succumb to temptation or desperation anywhere and anytime. that being said, for the most part, you can prevent most of it on your own with basic common sense. believe me, i arrested thousands of them over the years.

i think no matter where you go you are at some level of risk, and some of it depends on how easily you set yourself up. although there will always be opportunists, i have never felt as vulnerable there as on a city street in the states. in aruba, i have seen where packages are left piled inside of a rental car, or luggage, briefcases, laptops. not everyone on this or any island is a tourist spending their the family fortune on trivialities, gifts, jewelry etc. if you stick it under someone's nose long enough, sooner or later the have not who has even less will react. at least that's what the bad guys have told me over the years. we make it into an easy buffet for them. and who is to question them when they go into a car? not me. i don't know if it's their car or not, as i watch hundreds of folks go in and out of cars all day, especially downtown.

i think the majority of the larceny from vehicles would stop if we all would use the trunk, or disguise things a little better. or maybe we could actually carry a few things rather than put it all in the car. i used to use the example when talking to community groups of a lady who left a fuzzy ring box on the console of her car all the time. three times her car was broken into..........for the dollar or so in coins that was kept in the ring box. she simply could not understand that the ring box was the pull. same in aruba. thousands of people a day go to the jewelry stores for their "free gift", and leave bags in their cars that are labeled - DIAMONDS!!! DUH!!

as far as the personal crime goes, they need to go to the prison on the other side of the island for a nice long stay,
(or be forced to drive a plow all year in western new york or northern minnesota.) there are so many of us retired cops in aruba that i wonder, if they let us arm ourselves, or take...."other appropriate action", i think we could track down any major players very quickly, and truly have an impact on the thought process of most potential offenders.

if people would just be smart and cautious crime would go way down. when you are not, you put us all at risk.
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I agree. We had some thing stolen from our room a couple of years ago. We were at Dutch Village on the first floor for 2 weeks. We always left our patio unlocked to come and go easily. Toward the end of our stay, we had our ipod stolen from the room and my husband had 2 swim trunks and a pair of spandex running shorts (left out to dry after his run) stolen from the patio. We know this was totally our fault for not locking up and leaving stuff on the patio. I was disappointed in hotel security and management who claimed they would get back to us either way before we left and never showed up again. Anyway, lesson was learned and we didn't leave anything out or unlocked again.

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the sad thing is that everywhere we go, including our own homes, we have to always be in defensive mode. the days of unlocked doors are long gone. also, no matter what you do, there are still crimes you can't prevent. that is scary.

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I agree. We had some thing stolen from our room a couple of years ago. We were at Dutch Village on the first floor for 2 weeks. We always left our patio unlocked to come and go easily. Toward the end of our stay, we had our ipod stolen from the room and my husband had 2 swim trunks and a pair of spandex running shorts (left out to dry after his run) stolen from the patio. We know this was totally our fault for not locking up and leaving stuff on the patio. I was disappointed in hotel security and management who claimed they would get back to us either way before we left and never showed up again. Anyway, lesson was learned and we didn't leave anything out or unlocked again.
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Does anyone know if LaCabana has a hotel safe for a laptop? Otherwise, it is not coming!
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corrine, liz of nj is there. i will direct her to your question. we will be at costa linda and their new safe does have it.

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